compensation from malaysia air? zain asher is joining me. there's something called war risk insurance? >> absolutely. it basically covers everything from a hijacking, terrorism, pilot suicide and, yes, even a plane being shot down in the sky. now, it's a separate premium that airlines have to buy in addition to other types of insurance and how much the premiums cost, the airlines are determined things like the stability in the court where the airlines travel to, geopolitical risk and the aircraft and that kind of thing. in the case of malaysia airlines, war risk insurance policy has already covered the cost of replacing mm-17, the actual plane itself. now it has to cover liability payouts for the families of those passengers. and that process can take some time because some families might settle out of court. others might choose to sue. that might take several years to resolve in year. but it's chances are, even as premiums go up, it won't be

passed on to the passengers. >> it will not be. if you want to read more about war risk insurance, go to cnn.com. zain asher, thank you so much. we continue at the top of the hour, breaking news here on cnn, i'm brooke baldwin. this is what we know from the mid-east and the most dramatic example yet of how this conflict can have a big impact far beyond this region. the faa has issued a notice to all u.s. airlines telling them that they are prohibited from flying into or out of israel's main airport in tel aviv. why? it's because the damage you see right here and this is major, major damage. it is only a mile or so from ben gurion airport caused by a rocket. and that attack got some attention of some commercial airlines very quickly. three u.s. carriers and in fact, delta, united, and u.s. airways suspended flights to tel aviv

even before the faa officially issued its notice. and then you have european carriers, lufthansa, norwegian, klm, they are limiting their flights to varying degrees. one of our correspondents was onboard this delta frighten route to tel aviv which departed to paris and he took these photos of images of obviously the plane, some shots of some passengers making their unplanned arrival in france. there they are. cnn's atika shubert is standing by live at ben gurion airport. and then wolf is standing by in jerusalem. atika, first, are you seeing rockets, are you seeing planes? both? >> we're still seeing planes taking off and landing. the airport seems to be operating as normal but at the same time we're also seeing

rockets just a little while ago, as you know, the sirens went off and the red alert went out and we saw a rocket interception just over the ben gurion airport and that's exactly what the faa is concerned about and a mile from here is where that market landed and caused so much of that damage. in fact, we have a plane overhead and the airport is trying to go about as planned but faa and other airlines are saying they are not sure about the safety and until they are sure, they are going to cancel and avert their flights from coming here to ben gurion airport. >> atika, you have rockets being intercepted over your head, planes taking off and landing there at ben gurion. what does it look like? can you describe it for me when a rocket is intercepted in the

sky? >> sure. i mean, it's a pretty surreal, actually. life is going on as normal. you have planes landing and taking off and then all of a sudden you hear the sirens go off. you hear an announcement that it's a red alert and then you have less than 15 seconds to find shelter or just to hit the ground and then most of the time it's actually intercepted by the anti-missile system. and what you'll see is sort of a like a fireworks in the sky. it's very small but you'll see sparks, flares. it looks like in the sky and then you hear a boom. that's either the interception or that the rocket has landed somewhere. i have to point out that most of the rockets land in open areas or they are intercepted but occasionally they cause a lot of damage and they can kill people. in fact, just a few days ago they landed and it killed one man and injured four other people, including a young child. so they are dangerous, if not terribly accurate. they do have a lot of fear in this area.

>> wolf blitzer, you have been here for days and days. i'm sure you could recount what the boom sounds like, a rocket being intercepted above your head. atika was talking about the israel transport mint tree ministry saying that they are overreacting. what's your opinion? >> well, they are very, very angry, the israelis. they are not happy about this. it's a huge import in israel. it's the height of the tourism season. a lot of pilgrims and visitors come in the summer. hotels are usually pretty packed right now either in tel aviv or jerusalem. it's pretty empty right now. and remember, what the faa announced today and u.s. airlines at least for 24 hours, who knows how long, canceling flights in and out of israel, that's going to have an impact. it comes a day after the state department issued a travel advisory saying people should cancel, not go to israel, the

west bank, certainly not gaza if they have nonessential work that they don't have to do. they say only go there if it's important. not essential trips to israel. they are recommending that because, for all practical purposes, there's a war going on. over two dozen rockets have come through and the red alert goes off and you see up in the sky what is going on and hear the boom but people run quickly for shelter. there's always been a little bit of a concern about ben gurion airport. i was on that flight, the one that had to make the u-turn over greece and go to paris, i was on that flight a few weeks ago and i remember then speaking to some pilots and they say there are always precautions that they take flying into ben gurion

airport. he felt very secure and safe but right now when a rocket hits a mile away from ben gurion airport and causes the damage that it does, especially in light of what happened to mh-17 flying over ukraine, the airlines don't want to take any chances, the faa doesn't want to take any chances. if there's any problem whatsoever, you know what, people will figure out another way. el al, by the way, they are not canceling any of their flights. people will have a chance to fly but the u.s. carriers, at least for now, for 24 hours, and several european carriers and even korean carriers, they are going to stop for at least now. >> given as you point out what happened in eastern ukraine, it's all semiconnected. wolf blitzer, we'll be watching for you for your special live from jerusalem, "the situation

room." atika shubert, thank you. for those families of those killed, we are now hearing that the number of bodies on board this so-called morgue train is far fewer than first thought. originally we were told 282 bodies were transported out of the war zone in those refrigerated city of kharkiv. now we're hearing that number was closer to 200, which disu disturbingly means that 100 bodies were across this sprawling crash site. for the bodies that did make it to kharkiv, they will be taken to the netherlands, which is where most of the victims were from. a ukrainian official saying that a russian trained officer deliberately pushed the button

on the missile but they also claim that pro-russian militants might have gotten con us intoed saying that they thought they were targeting a cargo plane instead. michael, welcome back to the program. we appreciate your expertise and knowledge here. if i may, i'd like to begin with the exact number of bodies on that train. what number are you hearing? >> reporter: well, good to be back with you, brooke. we were at the train station yesterday before it departed for donetsk and then kharkiv. and the number that we were told was about 290. we've made it clear over the past couple of days that we have no independent way to verify that number. we could not go into the cars and we're not the experts. there was a team of dutch

forensic experts that went in yesterday and they, too, could not determine that number. i will tell you what we reported on today is that we were out at three or four of the major sites today. not only did we see some human remains there but i must say, the stench of human remains was very, very strong. and we also went for the first time with malaysian delegation to where the cockpit impacted and one of their first observations was that there could very well be human remains there, just judging by the smell, again, as well. >> so different reports of human remains in different parts of this massive, massive field area in eastern u krean, this rural part of the country. michael, do me a favor and stand by. i want to get a quick break in and i have a lot more questions for you as far as the investigation is concerned and the rebels' behavior. let's talk about how this has

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all right. michael with osce is joining me from donetsk, ukraine. we've been talking about the bodies that have been taken in that train to kharkiv who will ultimately end up in the netherlands but we learned this afternoon the fact that more bodies are probably in that field than previously thought. how are crews combing through this massive area looking for the remaining victims?

>> well, brooke, believe it or not, when we arrived this morning with the delegation, there was an eriely quietness. they had even taken down the tents. there was no activity whatsoever. that's what we'll report tonight. in fact, there's no active recovery of remains going on right now. the other thing that we noticed, i must sell you, is that major pieces of the fuselage have been moved. not away from the site necessarily but they have brought in heavy equipment yesterday and propped some of it up or cut into some. those were two major findings. >> when you say moved, is this

intentional by investigators or is this moved as in overnight you get there the next day and wonder what happened? >> this is by the so-called experts that the rebel groups allowed in there. some of them had, for example, written in ukraine and russian emergency services. but these are folks who have worked in past emergencies, i suppose before this area transferred into rebel control. but, yeah, we visited two days ago the cockpit area that i referred to earlier and as we left they were taken out diesel-powered saws and sawing quite invasively, i must say, into the cockpit fuselage. >> that's frightening. then you have the issue -- we talked yesterday about the reports of looting. and i'm wondering if what you've seen since then, if you have seen that the rebels themselves

loosening the grip on this site? >> well, from day one, brooke, there's been no perimeter of security whatsoever. it is, albeit, a large area. but there's been a large area and at night it would be fairly easy for folks to get in and out there. when we got into the cockpit crash area, there must have been 34 journalists right there next to the area. they were not chased away or anything. some of them were even doing standups there. it gives an indication of how porous that entire area is. one more thing, brooke, is that while we were there, you were talking about rockets in your previous segment. there was quite a bit of weaponry in the distance. we could definitely hear it. you could imagine that impact that had on the malaysians. this was their first day combing over the wreckage.

>> michael bociurkiw, thank you. i really appreciate it. we'll have much more on malaysia airlines flight 17. coming up, including these new pictures of the downed plane. see all these poles in this wreckage? that is or appears to be damage from shrapnel and these photos offer huge, huge clues into what happened. we'll discuss that. and take a look at this. see this big, white flag? this is the brooklyn bridge. this is today. it is usually the american flag. obviously that's not what is flying here. who the heck put it there? how did they pull it off? why? we'll take you there live coming up. tennis shoes skater kid: whoa narrator: that got torture tested by teenagers and cried out for help. from the surprised designers. who came to the rescue with a brilliant fix male designer: i love it

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welcome back to cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. did a missile take out malaysia airlines flight 17? that is question number one for these investigators to try to figure out and these photos that we're really seeing for the first time today could shed some light on the answer. because what they show, these are different pieces of wreckage from the plane pierced by these little small holes. when you talk to some analysts, it is what you would expect to see if the plane was hit by a warhead on an sa-11 missile, the same kind officials think could have hit flight 17. david soucie is a safety analysis and author of "why planes crash." when you see those holes, does that look like shrapnel to you?

>> i have never seen an aircraft shout down by a missile, i have to say -- >> thank goodness for that. >> but what i did see was something entirely different than the holes that you see here. they were tight state general. they sliced through these metal. these are not like that. this is puncture of objects going through that aluminum and pushing the aluminum back as it goes through. so the obama other thing i could think of, from the outside that would have caused anything similar, would be the uncontained engine failure that is clear there's nothing from the inside going out on these skins. nothing from the inside going out. so we can rule out, you know, a fuel explosion such as that of twa 800, we can rule out kl flight that was shot down as

well it's a different kind of missile and system. >> so we know that the plane was flying at 33,000 feet altitude. this was described to me by an expert in the last hour, a cloud of slap nhrapnel. what would that have done to the plane? >> what you see here. but the difficult thing that i see about this is it did not come out as a cloud and then go through it like we discussed before. this appears to me as it created a perforated line down that skin and if you look along the cut, the edge of the skin, you can see that there's several -- several penetrations through the skin and the instruction tstruc aircraft relates to that. when you have the high pressure inside that can allow the aircraft to tear along that line, as though it was a notebook with a perforated line down it. >> that's one piece of this that

we know investigators will be focusing on. >> absolutely. >> the other issue is, we know that the black boxes have been handed over to malaysia. we don't know if they have been tampered with or not. how can one tamper with a black box, david, and what kind of damage can be done? >> well, there's really -- really you'd have to have very sophisticated equipment which only a few places in the world have to be able to take the equipment -- take the information off, modify it, put it back on when you're talking about tampering. what they could do is blanket out. they could get rid of any information on it and that would be incredibly suspect. the critical peace of information from the black boxes, however, is the altitude of the aircraft when the missile hit it. if you have that and you can look at the damage to the outside of the aircraft and where the penetration was and where it came out on the other side, could you definitely tell which direction the missile came from for this to substantiate where it was launched from. >> okay. david soucie, thank you.

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bottom of the hour, you're following cnn. an agonizing way for those killed when flight mh-17 was shot down six days ago over eastern ukraine. they are still back at home and waiting to hear whether their loved ones have been recovered. bodies and other human remains are right now sitting in a factory in ukraine. we had originally heard that most of the bodies had been placed on this so-called morgue refrigerated train but now we're hearing this afternoon that nearly 100 bodies are still unaccounted for, likely still scattered across that massive crash site in the middle of a war zone. before the 200 bodies did make

it out, they will soon be flown to the netherlands where the grim process will be to complete testing. as for the black boxes, they will be headed to ukraine for analysis. when it comes to flying here, airlines are routing planes to different locations. one new route will stun you. this is the route of malaysia airlines flight 4 from kuala lumpur to london. directed over syria. and specifically, homs, a city that has seen some of the worst bloodshed in the country's civil war. so they avoided one conflict in order to avoid another. the company admitted it might have been a mistake. >> we operate about 400 flights a day and one flight went over syrian air space, again, because it was designated as a

safe flight corridor. again, when i found out about it, we immediately contacted our flight operation guys and said please take a look at these flight corridors. mh-17 should be a warning to everyone and i'd rather err on the side of caution. >> we are joined by chad myers. >> they can fly a flight plan, as long as it's approved, they can go through anything they want to over ukraine. i'm going to take you a journey. from kuala lumpur from here going this direction, the opposite direction that mh-17 was going. on the 15th, right over ukraine. on the 19th, right overture key and across romania and back to london. but on monday, back across syria and back this way and that's

where it got curious to see that july 20th. and i'm going to take you to the current flight radar, what's going on at this point, and we'll show you where most of the planes go at least at this time of day. if you're coming out of europe, this looks like our flight explorer. but out that way, right there, there's syria. you don't see any planes there. i just saw a middle east airplane leave from somewhere down here, i believe it was -- i can't even think. somewhere in the united emirates back towards beirut. it flew through syrian air space. if you're at the right flight, it should be an approved flight at that time. >> you talked about this on cnn.com, don't blame malaysia airlines for what happened over eastern ukraine. flying over syria, let me get

your response to that. >> when we fly the airplane, even prior to departure, most of the threat that we consider and a launch that was inconceivable. >> inconceivable? >> inconceivable. we have conflicts all over the world. this is not to say that we're going to deliberately fly over through a conflict but flying at those altitudes, knowing that you're squawking on the transponder, a code that identifies you as a civilian airline, to us it just -- it's inconceivable that we would be facing a threat like mh-17 experienced. >> now sadly it's inconceivable. how does this change all of us hopping on planes around the world from here on out?

>> it's going to be a total game changer at this point. now i'm going to have to include in my departure check list, thunderstorms, missile conflicts, any kind of conflict at all, i think that we're going to be -- after 9/11, it was -- it was terrorism, we changed our whole operation to deal with a potential threat in the air. so all of this is really going to change when we consider where we're flying over conflicted areas. >> les? >> go ahead, chad. >> we talk about these shoulder-fired missiles. at 32,000 feet, commercial airliners are not in danger for what we see on these movies. they will not go up that high, correct? >> absolutely. absolutely correct. in that op-ed piece that i wrote, brooke and chad, i mentioned that my particular airline had three airplanes,

767, to be specific, that had what they described as a jet eye system described for man pass and this was in '03 devised by the federal government and considered by congress and we had them installed on our airplanes in '08. but the cost was way too high and now you would install anything, even this type of system which is probably available for evasion. it could be outdated the minute it's installed. and at the time, we were talking 1 to $3 million per airplane and about $300,000 per subscription for each airplane every year that they had this old system that i flew in 2008 that was not active. >> it is a fascinating piece. les abend, thank you.

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. in new york city, terrorists have targeted at least 16 times since 9/11, when something is out of place and no one knows why, it generates serious questions. it takes me to what happened today.

two white flags appeared flying on top of the brooklyn bridge. no one knows who put them there. no one knows why. the flags are prompted serious concerns about bridge security. poppy harlow is live in brooklyn for us. and so we know the white flags have been removed. when did they first start flying? >> reporter: we have no idea. and frankly, brooke, nypd doesn't know either. that's part of what is so disturbing here. this is the landmark of the brooklyn bridge where it's meant to be extraordinarily tight security. at what point overnight or early this morning did two white flags replace those iconic american flags. nypd doesn't know. they've taken them down. let's take some video for you in the last 20 minutes of them actually putting that second american flag back up here on the brooklyn bridge. it's a huge feat to scale this bridge and to get up on top of

that flagpole to put white flags there. who could have done that? that is the key question. also, the real issue here is security. i was just talking to a detective that i know well at nypd and i said, how could this happen? he said there's a standard level of security at the bridge and he went on to say that that security failed last night or this morning and perhaps more security is needed. a local city councilman said the same thing. it's flag this time but what will it be next time, a potential landmark like this. i asked that detective, have you ruled anything out? could there be any concerning ties? could this be more than a prank? they said that they have ruled nothing out. they have a lot of different leads, people who claim to have been eyewitnesss, people who claim to have even done this. they are trying to look at the voracity of this. but the issue here is what kind of security is on this bridge? i can tell you that i was told

by nypd that they don't have cameras at this angle of the bridge. it's unclear if they were able to get footage of what happened. they may but they did say it's safe to cross the bridge right now. we crossed it coming over here from manhattan or on the brooklyn side. they said, look, brooke, you have two nypd police officers on the end of each bridge. this this is a landmark and something that's been targeted before. how could this happen? police are going to hold a press conference at 4:00 eastern. we'll be there and bring you more as we find out what it is. >> i'm glad, poppy, that we're talking about a flag changing and that is it. but it's a wake-up that's for sure. poppy harlow, thank you. >> right. we're starting to learn more about the rebels suspected of bringing down flight mh-17. ukraine president thinks they should absolutely be labeled as a terrorist group. does he have a point? we're talking to the former head of the british version of the

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rebels, separatists, terrorists, how should these pro-russian groups in ukraine be called? the groups could very well likely be behind the downing of malaysia flight 17. the former head of britain's 6,

british's version of the cia, sir, welcome. >> hi. >> ukraine's president said these separatists should be called terrorists. do you agree? >> well, it depends on where you're looking at it from. you know, clearly the act of bringing down a civilian airliner, if it were deliberate and i say if, would be a terrorist act and that's agreed internationally. but beyond that, the international community doesn't have any sort of legal definition of terrorist. so it's quite difficult to say these people are terrorists as rewarded by the ukrainian president or not rewarded as terrorists by the president of russia. >> you took me there. you made the point, which i think is excellent, that vladimir putin sees that the rebel groups in syria as terrorists but the rebel groups, the pro-russian rebel groups in eastern ukraine, he says, no, no, they are just exercising their free rights. convenient. >> yes. it comes down to politics, as

always, rather than any sort of legal definition. and the problem there, of course, is any group that you call terrorist is considered beyond any reasonable negotiation or involvement in any political process. so sometimes it's not a very helpful label to use. but nonetheless, when groups commit acts which are clearly criminal and clearly terrorist and indiscriminate in affecting civilians and they should be called terrorists and we should be quite open and clear about that. >> is this simply semantics, though, or something that would carry true punishment, if and when it is pro-russian militants or pro-russian rebels are caught? >> if you have a group bringing down an an airliner, they would be a terrorist group because we don't acknowledge that there's any cause that could possibly justify that action and i think the whole world would regard them as terrorist groups.

of course, in the politics of russia/ukraine, you say these people ought to be able to defend themselves, ought to have a right to self-determination. these things complicate the definition of but i think that the main lesson we can get from the mh-17 is that even if you do support these groups or feel that they may have some justification for their action, you shouldn't be giving them or helping them with weapons that can cause this sort of devastation to a civilian to a group of civilians who have absolutely nothing to do with the fight whatsoever. so that issue of giving weapons to groups and you don't know what might end up with them is a very real one. of course, applies to syria as much as it does to the ukraine. >> mr. barrett, if the rebels are terrorists, then what does that make vladimir putin and russia who trained them? >> well, anyone who supports a

terrorist, of course, should be condemned internationally. if someone were found to be supporting al qaeda or the islamic state as it's now called in iraq and syria, i think the international community would be very quick to condemn them and to take action against them. of course, when it's a state, it's much more difficult. we don't have any state sponsors of terrorism in a recognized sense. there's an awful lot of murky dealing going on around the world in many sort of areas of conflict where the protagonists are not particularly clear and their backers are not particularly clear either. >> richard barrette, thank you so much for joining me today. i appreciate it from new york. we'll take a quick break. ♪

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the card accompanying this medal was said this, the only heart i could find, be strong. how about that? here now is the girl's family spokesperson, steven haiyans. thank you so much for being here in your purple tie. how did this whole story come about? do you still not know who sent it? >> we don't. and this is an amazing story of an amazing little girl with a very brave heart. and a real strong will to live. and so when this horrific thing happened, it brought out the worst in a few people and the best of many, many people across all across the world. and so this little girl and her family have received thousands of purple hearts and messages and gifts and monetary contributions to help them with their mounting medical bills. and the little girl and her brother go through all of these every day. it's therapeutic and they really enjoy it. this special day they opened it up and it was a military purple

heart. >> she's 12. did someone in her family have to explain no, honey, this isn't like the cardboard cutout purple hearts we've been receiving? did they explain the significance of this gift? >> they did. she knew it was something very special, but wasn't sure what it was. so mom and dad talked to her and explained how -- what a purple heart is, what people do to get a purple heart, the sacrifice that veterans do across this great country and talked to this little girl, explained what this really meant. that's why it's so moving. the family wanted to tell the world this unselfish gift. it's truly amazing and it's anonymous. >> so since it's anonymous. >> when they received this had -- >> go ahead, go ahead. >> oh. it's anonymous. and they've called out and said they would like to meet and have someone come forward either privately or publicly to thank them both for their military service and for this incredible

incredible gift. >> the heart is amazing. all of the hearts and everything she's collected. but can i please just ask about her? how is she doing? >> she's doing better. you know, we talk about the new normal with this family. the old normal was you know, going to means and fish fries which is a very wisconsin thing and the new normal is still those things. but it's also doctors' appointments, it's therapies, working with both the physical and the emotional needs. but she's getting better every day. she's going to return back to school in september. so we're very proud of her and she is a strong brave little girl. >> at at that time girl. >> very brave. >> steve, thank you so much for joining me. i can't really say i'm surprised that someone in our military has given her their purple heart. thank you so much for joining me. in the final 90 seconds, are chad meyers, let's just walk viewers through what we're looking at. live pictures, this is

washington state. this is arlington, washington state. a lot of rescue vehicles responding because a helicopter came down somewhere in this wooded area. chad, we know one person is injured. what more do you know? >> this is snohomish county not that far from the seattle proper. we did have a picture just a little bit ago of the helicopter itself. i don't see it now on the screen. there's a lot of logging going on in the area. the green area, the trees are still alive. but this kind of a logging area up here in the higher elevations. quite a bit of topography here, as well. one person did walk away. still trying to rescue another. seeing that little piece of fuselage possibly right there is where that appears to maybe be the capitol ter on that side. i saw a zoomed in picture earlier. there you go right there, on its side. the fuselage itself still pretty intact. clearly all the blades off the helicopter.

that doesn't look like that hard of a crash. you still have a lot of pieces still there intact. >> large lake in snohomish county. chad meyers, thank you so much. one person removed, injured from the helicopter there in washington state. chad, thank you. thank you so much for being with me. turning things over to my colleague jim sciutto sitting in for jake tapper, "the lead" starts right now. >> thinking of flying overseas? could you be in the flight path of a war zone? i'm jim sciutto. this is the lead. the world lead. bad time to book a flight to tel aviv. the u.s. government banning all flights to and from israel's main airport after rocket fire makes it far too dangerous. also in world news, allegations of tampering with evidence and disrespecting victims' bodies. why hasn't at international coalition stepped in yet to remove control of the flight 17 crash site from those who may have shot down the plane?